Saturday, July 16, 2011

Flashback - The Dumbledore Incident

First of all, I have never seen Dumbledore, don't plan to see Dumbledore, and don't have any opinions about Dumbledore.  I do like the name Dumbledore and enjoy typing it and saying it to myself.

Dumbledore, Dumbledore, Dumbledore.

OK.  The one good thing that came out of my watching 9 1/2 minutes of Getting Schooled with Ragan is that "SpicyPants" told us to watch The Dumbledore Incident for ourselves and gave us the Flashback info.  Basically 7-12-11, at around 6:46 PM.  I'm watching Camera 1.


I started at 6:40, and things look innocent enough.  It looks like Jeff and Jordan are on the (nasty looking) couch in the HOH Room, and Brenchal, Dani and Kalia are lounging on the round bed.  I think Keith is in the room, too.

It seems like a pretty low-key situation, with the crew on the bed discussing the Snarks (?) and the Smurfs.  They discuss how Barney Rubble's voice changed in the middle of the Flintstones series and how pissed Jeff was.

Then Rachel brings up the first Harry Potter movie compared to the later ones.

Jordan:  I've never watched Harry Potter..

Jeff:  Harry Potter is my #1 movie to fall asleep to.

(That's what I said!!!  You can read that here.)

He falls asleep every time it's on.  Jordan mentions JK Rowling and how poor she was and wrote the books on a train.   In typical Jordan fashion, her description is kind of a cluster and Rachel gently corrects her.

Meanwhile, is Brendon flossing in this picture?  ***gross***

Keith says JK Rowling wasn't poor, but someone (Kalia?) says loudly that she was poor---she was "on the dole".

("On the Dole" is Brit Speak for welfare.  I learned that after studying the lyrics from a Wham album.  Yes, you read that correctly.)

Someone says "why are we yelling?"  Now they keep talking about JK Rowling.  So far so good.

Shelly enters the room with coffee for herself and Danielle.

Rachel:  What was the wizard's name?

Kalia says it was Dumbledore and he was written to be gay.

Jeff:  Who?  Written to be gay?  Who was DumbleDorf?  The big guy?

Rachel:  Why was he written to be gay?

Jeff:  That would be perverted!

Kalia:  Well, for kids to understand sexuality--that's why she did it.

Someone, maybe Jeff:  He doesn't have gay tendencies...

Kalia:  Yeah..that's the whole point..

Someone, maybe Jeff imitates Dumbledore:  Hey Harry, let me feel your balls..

Kalia:  Maybe that's just for people like you!  To change sterotypes about gay people!

Jeff, raising his voice, but still laying down:  What do you mean stereotypes about gay people?  He's in a school with little kids!  You don't want to make that guy gay!

Kalia, squealing:  Why?

Jeff:  What do you mean, why?

There is giggling in the room.  They are having a spirited discussion, but there is no true anger.  Also, Kalia's left boob is about to fall out of her shirt.

Jeff:  I don't think it's right for kids to be in some magical land, and to have him be gay!  I can see your PC view....

Kalia interrupts loudly, but is still laughing.  Rachel and Dani are holding a separate conversation in the background.

Jeff:  C'mon.  You know what I'm saying....You're going to let a storybook of where they go away to fantasy camp and the guy is gay?

Kalia protests but is still enjoying the debate.  (This will be one of her starring BB13 moments on You Tube and she looks great, which is important.)

Jeff:  Don't give me that fucking shit--don't tell me the right answer for fucking TV!

Kalia:  My little sister is gay!  So I have to deal with gay people!

Jeff: Think about what it is!

Kalia:  I don't understand!

Jeff:  You don't understand?  Then I'm not gonna talk about it...

Kalia falls over, giggling.

Brendon asks if anyone has watched CS Lewis' The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe.  Kalia gets in on the conversation, still giggling a little bit.

So, while Jeff's comments could be construed as offensive, it was not a "real" fight or argument.  If you watch Jeff in the house, he frequently uses profanity to be funny.  I think that is what he was doing here.  But I think his feelings were genuine, as were Kalia's.

Real people have real discussions.  Big Brother strives to put together a cast that will clash.  Many people in America will agree with what Jeff said.  Personally, I don't, but many people do.  I don't think anyone in America thinks Jeff is a learned scholar with learned views.  I can't even imagine the state of his literacy skills.

Things are changing, look at the recent Republican vote in New York to adopt gay marriage. Change takes time!

OK, back to the scene.  (SuperPass allows me to pause the video, which I love..)

The conversation switches from CS Lewis to somehow discussing that Marcy from Peanuts is gay.  Keith brings this up.

Keith:  Charlie was the first manic depressive..he was always down...

Dani:  Did you read the book?

Keith:  Yeah, Charlie was supposed to be like him...he was always

(There is apparently a biography of Charles Schultz, the creator of Peanuts that Keith and Dani both read.  It sounds interesting.  I love biographies.)

Keith mentions that Charlie always put himself out there, but never got a valentine from anybody and was really depressed.  This parallels Shultz's life.

Rachel:  How do you know all of this?

Keith:  I'm like a Charlie Brown fanatic.

He's seen every cartoon and has all the books and movies.  Snoopy was Schultz's dog.  Shelly gets in on the conversation while Rachel talks in the background about guys trying to make cartoon women nasty.  Brendon is a big conspiracy theorist, per Rachel, and listens to radio programs about aliens.

Now they talk about the Little Mermaid with the porn shots clipped in and they move on to the Wizard of Oz.  Keith claims that the Tin Man's hand is a gun, and that there is a body hanging from a tree in the movie.

And so on.

So that is the Jeff vs. Dumbldore incident.  I thought it would be more than it was.

PS  Brendon believes in aliens and notes Frank Drake a physicist, who calculated odds of other beings existing in the solar system.

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